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Iva Spinoza's avatar

As a Latina (Brazillian), great analysis. I love that you mentioned Garibaldi. We have a famous TV Show about his role in Brazillian history... It's heartbreaking!

As someone who has been reading a lot about Gothic literature, my favourite bit is: "2. If you want, for sentimentality’s sake, to claim that Wordsworth and Coleridge were not Romantics, I wouldn’t fight you. (...)"

Anne Williams says Gothic is the same as Romanticism, but in my opinion, they are not the same, but their difference is not in their nature, but in their emphasis (and critique).

Christianism is what brings the missing piece. When you go to where there is no God, it's revolting. Reading Mary Shelley's biography was torture. Shelley and Byron were so irresponsible that cost them their children's lives... Anyway, I suppose that the truth is, that without God, nothing really goes in the right direction.

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Joffre Swait's avatar

I love your comment, sister, and fully agree. I'm Brazilian too, by the way! I encourage you to check out Missão Guanabara (my ministry) online, and also the work of Uri Brito here on Substack and elsewhere.

I'm very excited for this week, as my church in Idaho is holding a missions conference about Brazil.

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Iva Spinoza's avatar

Oh wow, what? That is insane! Definitely checking all of that asap. It was already a pleasure to read your writings here, but now it's even better, brother! Christian writers (and bilingual Brazilians), unite!

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Gregory Soderberg's avatar

Fascinating analysis!

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J. Tullius's avatar

A compelling analysis. Another important and implicit aspect of Romanticism is its quasi-Pelagian conception of human nature, from which flows its political commitments. As you said, whether its anarchy (cf. Godwin) or communism, the faith in the individual is both hilariously naïve and incredibly destructive. I will only reserve for myself some admiration for those aspects of particular poets/thinkers that justly respond to the changes of the Industrial Revolution, its transformation of both life and landscape. Some have even characterized Tolkien, esp. Lord of the Rings, as "romantic" in that regard. To his credit, Wordsworth, by the end of his life, abandoned a radical political philosophy, but I think his worries about what some now call the "disenchanted" world stand. No?

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Joffre Swait's avatar

I agree. I hardly consider Wordsworth a Romantic. I almost want to call him a Domestic. I also resist calling Coleridge a Romantic.

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